Comments on: Implied Odds Bluff http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/ Annie Duke - Official Website Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:18:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Ben http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/comment-page-1/#comment-9306 Ben Thu, 02 Jun 2011 18:35:56 +0000 http://www2.annieduke.com/?p=109#comment-9306 This article goes hand in hand with the "no foldem" article. I love Annie's poker player diagnostics, and I especially like it when she chooses to swear at them with her words. I do have to say it is extremely unfair for a nice looking woman to use the flirt card for an advantage by exploiting mens weaknesses. I would be forced to totally ignore Annie at the table and probably stay out of her way too. This article goes hand in hand with the “no foldem” article.
I love Annie’s poker player diagnostics, and I especially like it when she chooses to swear at them with her words.
I do have to say it is extremely unfair for a nice looking woman to use the flirt card for an advantage by exploiting mens weaknesses. I would be forced to totally ignore Annie at the table and probably stay out of her way too.

]]> By: kevin http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/comment-page-1/#comment-9230 kevin Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:19:22 +0000 http://www2.annieduke.com/?p=109#comment-9230 I think of implied odds when i am making a semi bluff if i have a flush draw and there is 40 in the pot i might bluff for 40. I also call it using fold equity, because if there is a 50% chance they fold and i win 40$ and when i get called i have a 30% chance to win 80$ I think of implied odds when i am making a semi bluff
if i have a flush draw and there is 40 in the pot i might bluff for 40. I also call it using fold equity, because if there is a 50% chance they fold and i win 40$ and when i get called i have a 30% chance to win 80$

]]> By: tomfmason http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/comment-page-1/#comment-8675 tomfmason Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:06:40 +0000 http://www2.annieduke.com/?p=109#comment-8675 [...]Today I read another great article by Annie Duke entitled Implied odds bluff. I completely agree with her on the over use of implied odds and have been guilty of this in the past. What got me away from over using implied odds for situations like what she describes was a situation very close to her last example about the small suited connectors. [...] http://www.tomfmason.net/blog/implied-odds-when-to-use-and-when-not-to/ Another great read. I ran across this pretty late but it is still relevant imo. [...]Today I read another great article by Annie Duke entitled Implied odds bluff. I completely agree with her on the over use of implied odds and have been guilty of this in the past. What got me away from over using implied odds for situations like what she describes was a situation very close to her last example about the small suited connectors. [...]
http://www.tomfmason.net/blog/implied-odds-when-to-use-and-when-not-to/

Another great read. I ran across this pretty late but it is still relevant imo.

]]> By: StJames888 http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/comment-page-1/#comment-7168 StJames888 Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:25:36 +0000 http://www2.annieduke.com/?p=109#comment-7168 Great articles, Per the no fold em game, I see that so often: people hold on for that 1 or 2 cards to make a hand; however it never materializes, and usually you waste a chunk of your stack. Also for the implied odds notion, I always run things thru the filter of cutting my losses if I don't get a piece of the flop; that is my main aim. If I miss the flop completely and I'm not holding pocket pairs 7-8 or better, I'm ready to bail since nothing good comes out of chasing a straight/flush draw 99% of the time Great articles, Per the no fold em game, I see that so often: people hold on for that 1 or 2 cards to make a hand; however it never materializes, and usually you waste a chunk of your stack. Also for the implied odds notion, I always run things thru the filter of cutting my losses if I don’t get a piece of the flop; that is my main aim. If I miss the flop completely and I’m not holding pocket pairs 7-8 or better, I’m ready to bail since nothing good comes out of chasing a straight/flush draw 99% of the time

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/comment-page-1/#comment-6911 Jennifer Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:54:45 +0000 http://www2.annieduke.com/?p=109#comment-6911 On your other blog, "Hold em has become a fold em game"....I completely agree with your assessment. I see it a lot online these days. On your other blog, “Hold em has become a fold em game”….I completely agree with your assessment. I see it a lot online these days.

]]> By: AliG http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/comment-page-1/#comment-6505 AliG Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:48:22 +0000 http://www2.annieduke.com/?p=109#comment-6505 +1 to the article. Very well written. I myself play suited connectors (or hands like that), once in a lifetime, jst for variation. +1 to the article. Very well written.

I myself play suited connectors (or hands like that), once in a lifetime, jst for variation.

]]> By: Bob Varns http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/comment-page-1/#comment-5845 Bob Varns Mon, 18 May 2009 18:14:19 +0000 http://www2.annieduke.com/?p=109#comment-5845 I do so love your writing and you are dead on I see even top pros making obvious plays based on implied odds that just are not there. Also I very seldom read or hear discussion of NEGATIVE implied odds. You are going to have to bet or call on the later street (turn) if you play on the flop. If you miss that means you are paying more than the flop price automatically and its pretty well in the toilet. Example u have flush draw not to the nuts u call on flop getting 2:1 (another discussion I know but not now). U need 4:1 on the turn if u miss and u will have to pay to play obviously so now u almost certainly are NOT going to be getting the right price. I believe u do explain this in one of your vids. In fact I dont play "two card draw" odds EVER in no limit for this reason. I need 4 to 1 on the FLOP to play the flush draw and 5 to 1 for the open str. This may be conservative I don't know but so often I put myself in the above described trap using the two card odds I concluded it had to be a losing play. Great job on CA I have watched all your instruction vids u do a great, great job. Bob "johnnydabone" Varns I do so love your writing and you are dead on I see even top pros making obvious plays based on implied odds that just are not there. Also I very seldom read or hear discussion of NEGATIVE implied odds. You are going to have to bet or call on the later street (turn) if you play on the flop. If you miss that means you are paying more than the flop price automatically and its pretty well in the toilet. Example u have flush draw not to the nuts u call on flop getting 2:1 (another discussion I know but not now). U need 4:1 on the turn if u miss and u will have to pay to play obviously so now u almost certainly are NOT going to be getting the right price. I believe u do explain this in one of your vids. In fact I dont play “two card draw” odds EVER in no limit for this reason. I need 4 to 1 on the FLOP to play the flush draw and 5 to 1 for the open str. This may be conservative I don’t know but so often I put myself in the above described trap using the two card odds I concluded it had to be a losing play.

Great job on CA I have watched all your instruction vids u do a great, great job.

Bob “johnnydabone” Varns

]]> By: Robin http://www.annieduke.com/2008/10/implied-odds-bluff/comment-page-1/#comment-499 Robin Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:44:37 +0000 http://www2.annieduke.com/?p=109#comment-499 Looking from another angle, I would rather be making that bet on the turn with the ace of spades and a rag, or a pure bluff. Looking from another angle, I would rather be making that bet on the turn with the ace of spades and a rag, or a pure bluff.

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