Episode 9 of Celebrity Apprentice: I am a Whore Pit Viper
I am not exactly sure what a whore pit viper is but I hope it becomes the catch phrase of 2009.
This week we were tasked with creating a 4 page advertorial for Right Guard. The teams were 4 on 2 so one of Athena’s members needed to be moved over to KOTU. That morning I was sure it would be me. I figured the producers would want to see Joan and me on the same team. Man, was I wrong. Those producers are much, much smarter than I am for sure because the dynamic between me, Brande and Melissa was much more interesting to watch as was the dynamic between Clint and Jesse. Go producers for moving Jesse on over to KOTU. A much better move than I would have made.
So, I will go over KOTU first, then address Athena.
On KOTU, Jesse really knew magazine advertising. He is an amazing photgrapher and he owns a magazine (called Garage Magazine) and understands the cutting edge of this kind of layout. Jesse and Joan both gave Clint ideas. Joan came up with a bunch of big black guys hovering around David Lee (a white guy) to show David under pressure. What the hell? I don’t get that and it seems kind of racist. So that idea was promptly rejected. Jesse came up with this idea of David being the new kid on the block with the pressures of New York City to deal with. He drew out an amazing two page spread with David in front of a beautiful cityscape. That is the idea KOTU went with. Good call.
Jesse went out to photograph the cityscape while Clint stayed back to lay out the project. I found the interactions on the team interesting. As far as I could tell, Joan just stayed out of the way once her ideas were rejected and left Clint and Jesse to do all the work. Clint incorporated a lot of Jesse’s ideas as well as some of his own. Jesse got pissed that Clint wasn’t executing all of Jesse’s ideas. Now I am a huge fan of Jesse James. I think he is incredibly talented. I think he is incredibly intelligent. I think he deserves to be in the final two. But in this case, I feel the need to defend Clint Black. Obviously, I wasn’t in the room so I am only looking at the edit. But it seemed that Clint was trying really hard to be accommodating of Jesse’s ideas and really incorporate them. In fact, the final layout seemed to reflect most of what Jesse wanted. Jesse, though, decided to absent himself from the process at some point. Even when Clint was begging for input, Jesse refused to give him any. In this case I think Jesse let his personal feelings about Clint (he clearly doesn’t like him) to get in the way of being a team player. Had the team lost, I would have actually thought Jesse should be fired for shutting Clint out like that when Clint was begging for help. I never thought I would say that because in terms of overall game play I don’t think there is a comparison between the two. Jesse is the much, much stronger player.
Over on Athena, Brande stepped up as Project Manager and doled out the tasks. She tasked me with doing the brand messaging and the presentation and the slogan and and and. I was actually very resistant to being tasked with so much. I tried to insist that Brande do the presentation as I felt that was a lot to put on my shoulders. In the end Brande really wanted me to do all that so I did what my Project Manager asked of me, reluctantly. Melissa was tasked with doing all the photo editing and layout work. Brande oversaw everything.
I came up with the concept of David Lee naked with the saying “Right Guard: The only thing I ever need to wear” That is the concept Brande chose to go with, which upset Melissa. In fact, everything upset Melissa. When I called Brande to let her know the photographer had said it was an advantage to shoot David first, Melissa got upset that we were keeping secrets. I am not sure why since we were on speaker phone. The fact is Melissa felt like she was being set up for failure by me and Brande. But that is actually not true. I am not saying that I would not have done that if I had to in order to succeed in the game. Of course I would have. But I didn’t need to. Melissa was setting herself up for failure with no help from me by being an ineffective fundraiser and abrasive in the boardroom to Trump, to Piers, to George, etc. At the end of the game, those things really matter and I already knew that Melissa was going to have trouble getting to the end. The dynamic with her mother was already bringing her down, the dynamic with the people in the boardroom as well. And the fundraising capabilities. Brande was, plain and simple, the stronger player.
But, amazingly, in the end I think we all worked very well together. I took Melissa aside to try to make her feel more included. Brande did the same. Because in the end we are a team and we wanted to win and not have to face the boardroom and go into the next task a team of 2 against a team of 3. I actually to this day think we made a very good layout. And I stand behind the presentation I did and was extremely surprised my Melissa’s comments about my presentation. She watched me practice that at least 5 times and never once said she didn’t like it. She never once said it wasn’t conversational enough. Even she thought it was bad, why didn’t she ever say that to my face? Why did she only critique me behind my back? My only explanation is that she was trying to set me up for failure, the very thing she accused me of doing to her. I would have liked the constructive criticism to tell you the truth since I was reluctant to do the presentation in the first place. I really felt Brande should be doing it.
So we go in the boardroom and this interesting dynamic between Clint and Jesse comes out. I knew Jesse did not like Clint. But that was hard for me to watch because, again, from what I saw Clint was actually trying to cooperate for once in the game and I could see he felt very shut out and thrown under the bus in all that. From what I could see the layout did mostly come from Jesse’s ideas…just not 100% of the layout. And when I saw their work I knew we were going to lose. They did a really good job. So I am surprised Jesse was so upset about the whole thing in the first place except that he just plain old doesn’t like Clint. That is my only explanation.
On our side, the executives liked the concept of David Lee half naked and they liked the branding but they thought the execution was boring. That was their words and that was our downfall. Athena lost the task. I was very nervous that I might be the one to go simply because I had been tasked with so much. The thing I had going for was exactly the compliment Cramer had paid to me earlier…that I had done most of the work so if we won I would get a lot of credit it but I had also set myself up not be be fired because I had been so vocal in making sure that everyone knew I did not ask to have so much put on my shoulders. But that might not matter, even if I had played the hand right. Even if I had made sure I left all the decision making power with my PM I still might get axed for the failed layout since I had done so much of it.
As soon as we got in the boardroom, though, it became clear right away that I was not in danger. Trump, Cramer and Ivanka all quizzed both Brande and Melissa about whether or not I had taken over the task and everyone vehemently agreed that I had not. That really put me out of hot water and, interestingly enough, it was Melissa who really argued the most strongly in my favor when she was trying to argue I should be fired.
http://www.nbc.com/the-celebrity-apprentice/video/clips/week-9-who-would-melissa-fire/1091268/
The other point was that, actually, in the end the execs thought the photos were boring and that happened to be the one thing that was not my job. That was a lucky break for me since I had so much on my shoulders in this task. So it came down to Brande and Melissa and who would be fired. When I was asked about this I had an interesting dilemma. At this point in the game, Brande and I had become very good friends so my loyalties certainly were with her. However, I also knew that going into the next task I would a) have to be project manager if Brande went along with me since she had already stepped up twice and b) that if we were to lose I would have a much weaker argument against Brande than I would against Melissa. Being PM for sure on the next task would be a tough spot since the PM is usually the most under fire. And Brande was the stronger player to boot. She had raised much more money than Melissa, second only to me in fact in the game. She was an incredibly hard worker. And, this is really important, she was really well liked. Much more well liked than me, obviously. Melissa, on the other hand, was a weak fundraiser, was not well liked at all and would have to be project manager on the next task since she had lost on her first try so would need to try for a win in order to win the whole game. So taking Melissa long with me would be a better play.
But I really went against game play here and decided to argue for Melissa getting fired. Why? Because I really just felt Brande deserved to be in the game more and I just plain really like and respect her as a person. So when push came to shove, I recommended Melissa get fired even though it felt like it was against my short term best interests. I figured the life equity issue was much more important to me at that point…walking away from the game knowing that I had been loyal to my friend, to Brande.
So, in the end Trump fired Melissa and, well, you saw the meltdown from the Rivers for yourself. Folks! It’s a game where you get fake fired from a fake job all in the hopes of raising a ton of money for charity! Really, calling anyone a whore pit viper under those circumstances is an extreme reaction and, frankly, not losing with grace. And Joan Rivers. Well. What can I say there? As far as Brande goes…as much as Joan likes to claim I called Brande an idiot she is the only one who has disparaged Brande’s intellect falling on the age old your a dumb blond insult. Brande defended herself pretty well against that one pointing out if she is so stupid then why is she still there and not Melissa. Good point Brande. For everyone thinking I somehow manipulated Brande in order to get ahead in the game I would venture to say it is quite the opposite. Brande outplayed Melissa pretty nicely.
Now, as for Joan’s comments about poker players…well…what I said on the show is true. Poker players are the most wonderful people you will ever meet. Poker players are thoughtful and generous and are good for their word. I think it is so interesting that the group that has come out the most strongly in support of the show and in support of these charities, poker players, are so vilely disparaged by Joan on the show. But it was clear Joan doesn’t care much about that when she said, “Oh stop with all this charity nonsense.” Joan can attack me all she wants. She can attack my morals. She can call me a Nazi and compare me to Hitler. I signed up for that when I agreed to do the show. I was there to defend myself. But to use such a broad brush to insult a whole group of people who did not sign up for that kind of abuse, implying they are criminals, saying outright that they give blood money and are worse than white trash. Well now I am angry. To insult me is one thing. I can take it. To insult my friends who have been nothing but generous and selfless in their support of charity. That is a whole other thing and that is where you can get a rise out of me.
Joan saying that all poker players have no last names and are worse than white trash is like me saying that all comedians are miserable, depressed people who take their angst, anger and unhappiness out on everyone around them. Clearly, that would be unfair.
Joan + Melissa,
In the same post you accuse me of responding to every single person, you actually respond to another person yourself.
That post is IMMEDIATELY followed with you responding to yet another person.
Would you like some “hypo” with your “crite”?
Again, just to reinforce it for you, Annie is the best-known poker player. And poker players are not celebrities. A single poker player is, and that is even a stretch.
can you offer anything to back that up? Annie is not the best known poker player. She does not claim to be the best known poker player. If we’re talking about people who don’t play or watch poker, the only poker player they’ve heard of is probably either someone like Amarillo Slim or Chris Moneymaker, maybe, he got a lot of press at the time.
And? Guess what, people who don’t follow hockey can probably not name one hockey player as hockey doesn’t get much coverage. Non basketball fans can probably name two players. Non golf fans know one player. So?
Tom, have you ever heard of any of these ?
626,000 Stephen Baldwin
621,000 Nadia Comaneci
501,000 Lennox Lewis
240,000 Melissa Rivers
245,000 Herschel Walker
195,000 Vincent Pastore
numbers on the left side = number of web search results, using quotes
eg http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=“annie+duke”
A few poker players:
684,000 Doyle Brunson
519,000 Phil Hellmuth
496,000 Gus Hansen
367,000 Phil Ivey
319,000 Annie Duke
I met Annie at a fake poker tourney a few years back where she was our facilitator, and she beat everyone, including her brother. A class act, a great person, and I didnt see any viper fangs!! Go get ‘em Annie, and as you autographed my Ace card, “PLAY GOOD!”.
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Zeppy and all, How you got that I’m disturbed because I’m saying what I feel is beyond me. I’m not upset with Annie or the show; I’m just expressing my thoughts, that’s all. I have not offended anyone on this board and I think your comment is inappropriate.
Let’s get real, all these people are on the show to help themselves – yeah, they are also helping their charities along the way, but mainly they are looking for exposure to further their careers. That is simply the bottom line.
I don’t love Joan and Melissa – I think their behavior was wrong and should probably apologize. Doubt that will happen, but who knows.
I am not a young person, I’m a business woman who can be ruthless when necessary, but anyone who knows me can tell you that I don’t always have to jump up and down and say, look at me, look at me to get what I need. As a project manager, I do take a step back and let each member shine. Everyone has their strengths and as a PM I understand that and I strongly support team work. I’ve never been fired from any job and have owned my business for 20 years. With 20 employees who have been with me for 19 years, I must be doing something right.
What I mean by Annie being disrespectful is that she always takes over no matter who is assigned as the PM. She doesn’t do this to be good to her team, but simply to save her ass when she comes up before Trump. Time and time again, that is what is shown because that is her behavior. Editing is good, but I doubt they are that good.
Someone like Annie would not last in my company – you can be successful and effective without being abrasive.
way to go annie! you looked like a class act defending poker players! i pity joan rivers when she plays in vegas her next gig! I am cheering for you to win the celeb app..
Annie,
You can work in my company ANYTIME!
We need good people like you!
Bill
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that will never get through to his thick head.
btw, that list you offered above, if you change the search to “all languages” instead of just english, the poker brat, Hellmuth, has well over 1 million
I assume that would raise all their stats of course. i just did his because most top players are world renown-
z, I have heard of a lot of famous people. If they happen to play poker on TV, that doesn’t make them professional poker players.
The list of actual playing professionals you list would have about three to five people out of a hundred knowing who they are.
Annie would score higher than them all, but not much more than 10.
In other words, poker players are not celebrities, although celebrities occasionally play poker.
Hey guys…While we’re talking about Phil Hellmuth…check THIS out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAK_s91uDOk
Ari, I didn’t say you were disturbed. I said Joan and Melissa would have to be seriously disturbed if they really freaked out to that extent over losing a reality show where all the money goes to charity, there’s no actual job involved, and the title of Celebrity Apprentice adds pretty much nothing to anyone’s actual resume.
I doubt they are seriously disturbed, so I’m guessing it’s a lot more likely that they made a calculated decision that a televised freak out would help them more in the long run than winning CA (imo, they’re right about that). My point was that you need not be concerned about Joan leaving the show and throwing everyone’s plans into disarray–she ain’t leaving.
I don’t think you’re disturbed, I do think it’s kind of unecessary, childish, and low class for people to bringing personal attacks and judgments about a stranger’s character and parenting skills (you didn’t mention her parenting skills at least) etc to her personal blog where it’s much more likely that she or her family members might see it instead of just going to any other general message board about the show, but whatever. Annie’s a big girl and a public figure, she knew what she was getting into going on a reality show, I’m sure she can handle it and is used to it.
(Granted, you could say that if you were a celebrity you’d laugh all the way to the bank at idiots who have nothing better to do than screw around on the net psychoanalyzing you–don’t be offended, I’m including myself in that as much as anyone–but I’m no shrinking violet, and in real life I’ve had days ruined by witnessing strangers who I don’t give a damn about being nasty to people I care about. I personally don’t feel the need to potentially toss bile at strangers who’ve never done anything to me to brighten their day, that’s just me. You and I are strangers too, and you shouldn’t care about my opinion in this matter either, do what you feel you gotta).
As to the other stuff, when I’m on a project with co-workers, we work cooperatively, but if we play Monopoly, we don’t throw out the rules and all support each other to work together and break up the trusts because Monopolies are morally wrong or because someone being outshined by someone else is hurtful and we need to create an atmosphere of mutual support. I try to beat them, make them lose so I can win, because that’s how the game is played.
Likewise, this isn’t a documentary show about how actual Trump Enterprises employees work together and resolve conflicts. It’s not a show about two actual teams like the Yankkes and the Red Sox and how they work together and compete against other teams. It’s an individual competition where celebrities who will never see each other again succeed in direct proportion to how much others fail. If you think you can determine who’d be a good employee from a show where celebrities are forced to perform tasks that most of them have no actual real life experience, expertise or qualifications in, such as designing ad campaigns for major national products, based on an hour show where probably about 7 minutes of airtime are devoted to the actual work and where the object is to knock everybody else out so you can win, cool.
I personally have no idea who I would or wouldn’t hire based on any of this, since I can’t really figure out what it’s suposed to demonstrate except maybe who’s a good game player or what Mark Burnett thinks makes good TV, and as my work has little to do with game playing or ratings, that doesn’t help me much. I haven’t seen anyone do anything that would indicate they’d be bad or good employees. I’d have to consider their resumes, experience, sills sets, and performance in actual work situations. Even Joan and Melissa, talk about abrasive, but I’m pretty sure they don’t act like that in real work siuations, only on TV and possibly in games, so that wouldn’t disqualify them if I got good references from others who’d worked with them in actual work situations.
I’d actually be pretty amazed if anyone who’s even been on the non-celebrity Apprentice went in for a job interview and was told they were being turned down because watching them on the Apprentice clearly indicated they could not be employees. Maybe because the company thought that being associated with the Apprentice would bring their company the wrong kind of publicity, but because of a few weeks’ mostly offstage work on a reality show? If that did happen, I suspect they’d be dumbfounded and amused and imo, rightly so. I’ve seen people on reality competitions say “I’m not here to make friends,” and while I know right away they’re going to lose because sponsors don’t want to give TV shows or whatever the prize happens to be to contestants who don’t try to appear personable on TV and help build their brand, that wouldn’t affect me at all in terms of hiring–people who don’t go out of their way to befriend a bunch of strangers duuring a few week stint on a reality show aren’t necessarily going to be unfriendly or disruptive IRL. *shrugs* Nor would I automatically think that someone who wins a relaity competition would be a good hire, because that skills set is specialized and has nothing to do with my business. I wouldn’t care one way or the other except as a funny anecdote.
I’m sure you’re very successful and have never been fired, but I don’t think you’d do well on a show like CA if you treat a game like an actual work situation. I’ve never been fired either, but if I went on a show where we’re all competing for the same slot and someone gets fired every week, then I’d understand that things are a little different than at actual work, and if my goal is to save my job according to Donald Trump’s whims, and to do that I need to make sure everybody else loses theirs, I’d probably have to adjust my behavior since that kind of thing has little application to my actual job or life. At work, we’re all on the same team with the same goal. On CA, pretty much the opposite.
Is there a similarly-named MBA seminar on PBS at the same time as this show, and people intending to tune in for education rather than entertainment are becoming hopelessly confused?
Annie Duke doesn’t care if you people would hire her. Nor Jesse James, not Khloe Kardashian, nor anyone. They’re not applying for a job from you! They’re not even applying for a job from Trump! It’s.A.Game. Not.A.Job.Interview. A.Game.That.Is.Filmed.
Nobody who’s ever going to hire them CARES how well they get along while trying to build a giant Croc in 89 minutes. What makes it funny is watching famous people who either work for themselves or get sucked up to as “the talent” forced to actually pretend to work, suck up to Trump when they want to walk out on his smirky powertrip, and try to outsmart each other. Clint Black will survive the day he was “disrespected” by not being totally deferred to by some other celebrity as much as by some peon he pays to agree with him just like Natalie and Annie will survive the day they were forced to do grunt work they’d usually delegate to their assistants.
If they’re too lazy to play the game, they shouldn’t be there. It’s a TV show, they’re supposed to be doing something entertaining enough to be filmed, or they’re failing. It doesn’t matter if the giant croc falls apart, they’re not working really for Croc and Croc too will survive, it matters how enertaining it is to watch a giant croc falling apart on TV.
But yeah, reality is paramount in “reality.” Not entertainment value, truth. They may employ a small army of writers and story editors and filter and seem to follow the same patterns over and over depending on what the audience responds to, but don’t let that fool you. They really have very little interest and control on how it all plays out, they’re married to depicting events as they actually unfold out of a strong moral compass and the lack of choice involved in editing a huge mass of material down into a small, highly selective mass.
Annie,
Luv you, luv the show this season. Keep your cool, play the last hand.
Thank you, Zeppy.
Sandy Brown,
Phil markets himself as the “Poker Brat” and makes millions off of it. He knows what he’s doing
He’s a kind person with a persona he puts forth on tv intentionally. The way he plays in front of the cameras on PAD or High Stakes (the Game Show Network), is not how he plays in general. Amazing so many don’t understand what he’s doing and it’s obvious most of his fellow poker pro’s just laugh at him because they know he’s going to act out.
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Joan Rivers goes all-in with:
“You´re Hitler!” –> Annie Duke folds
Joan Rivers goes all-in with:
“You´re dispicable human being!” –> Annie Duke folds
Joan Rivers goes all-in with:
“Poker-players are beyond white trash!” –> Annie Duke folds
And so on….sad
THE TITLE EXPLAINS IT ALL YA?
Well Annie,
I have to admit, you weren’t one of my favorite of the poker pros to start with.
I am glad you decided to do the Celebrity Apprentice. From the first episode, I liked you. I was able to see more about who you are and that made me respect you.
Know that the Rivers would run over, I was anticipating this episode. I’d always known they had no self awareness, but goodness gracious… Could anyone be more clueless and vile? There attacks are uncalled for and unpressional.
Not granting an exit interview… Geez Louise… It must be good to be a Rivers.
They are deeply troubled have no class and tact and should never be put on TV again.
hi – yeah, the syntax, or possible inversion, of the phrase “whore pit viper” is confusing. but it means that you are both a whore and a pit viper. not, as may be read, a viper that hangs around a whore pit.
the whore part refers to the surrendering of dignity for material gains. as in the duplicity shown when first seeking to discredit Brande as a leader and possible intellectual entity then the next week using her to segment your real threat, Melissa
the pit viper part refers to reptilian-like qualities of someone that abandons all notions of grace while adopting a “post hoc, ergo propter hoc” attitude toward achieving a goal. in other words, shamelessly and ruthlessly seeking to denigrate others if it might help one’s own position.
i hope this helped
The fact Joan Rivers said the things she said about poker players convinces me of her jealousy and anger towards you and I am surprised she sleeps at night. What you said about “the game” is so true, that “you get fake fired from a fake job in hopes of raising a ton of money for charity”, and there is no pliable excuse for Joan or anyone really to make personal attacks against good people who play the game better and prefer not to engage in those acts. Annie, you are a great stand up person, I respected you before this show, and I will respect and look up to you long after this show, forget Joan Rivers, she will never be half the person you are, she has proved that time and time again.
i think its great that Bill Gates wants to hire you Annie. I can understand why. However you need to improve your people skills and become more sincere. Otherwise you are better off as a soloist. My sister met you on the poker circuit in the women’s tournament in Vegas last year and said you “weren’t the nicest of people.” She got along with everyone there–some of the biggest names in poker–and I have to say that if she said that there is truth to her words. (she said this upon her return and way before you were on this apprentice show)
So given what I just wrote you dont need to publish this but I do feel you need to hear this in a compassionate way so here it goes:
I always believed in life that you dont have to cut peoples’ throats to get ahead. I am a successful female entrepreneur in my own right and I have always gotten ahead on my innovative and creative qualities and not on my ability to manipulate people. (I am from a sales background–and so manipulation normally comes with the territory–I however, have chosen to avoid this in my own career)
You are very talented and capable; with four children who look up to you –( i just gave birth to a little one myself) the one issue i always ponder is–do the ends justify the means. Would you want your children to do what you do.. In many cases the answer is yes and in few (hopefully less rather than more the answer is NO-)-which is where we can grow as decent human beings.
Anyhow, I like the show very much–celebrity and regular apprentice and try to watch every week. The past two weeks i have, and hope to this week. I myself wanted to go on when it first started but I am way too busy with my career. So I watch others and see what they come up with:) The challenges used to be a little better–but thats prime time for you..
Good Luck
off to work, ciao
Annie –
I just saw the episode in which your jingle/radio spot bested Clint Black, and came away both impressed with your performance and appalled at your childish, ungracious, petty behavior.
First, I though Clint’s jingle was good but predictably country. It was too narrow musically and lyrically, failing to capture Chicken of the Sea’s demographic or the full value of the product. It sounded good, though, and their spot was very funny. Your jingle accomplished everything it needed to, though it was understandably inferior musically and your radio spot was quite basic and trite.
All in all, it was a solid effort by all involved and a good competition in which the executives and Donald — as Clint graciously acknowledged — were fair. You, however, were childish. You focused on the fact that you “beat Clint” in writing a jingle. You did, but it was because of the substance and focus of the jingle, which you misconstrued to mean that a poker player who’d “never written anything in her life” somehow single-handedly out performed a star musically. Not true. Then, when the other team was discussing your jingle and radio spot, with you in the other room, you were so petty. They both complimented and criticized your work, which should be expected. And you immediately chimed in with snarky comments — wasn’t it enough that you won? On top of that, they were being fair and you were too insecure and selfish to recognize that.
I am not minimizing your performance — just pointing out what is already obvious. You are an appallingly petty person and you embarrass yourself, despite your success. I pray that your attitude ended up bringing you bad fortune at some point in the show, if there is any justice in the world.
I agree with this last comment. Ms. Duke, you acted childish and self-centered. As you sat on the couch next to Brandi, all you could talk about was yourself. Never once thanking or acknowledging her part in winning. Very Narcissistic!!
Annie does take part in the attacks. She just waits until she is NOT in front of Donald Trump. Joan calls a spade a spade no matter where she is. Annie changes personalities depending on who is around.
On the magazine ad. I agree with Jesse and thought it was really poor, yours were better but like the execs said the ordering was not optimal.
Still I didn’t like the way Jesse communicated on the edits we saw on TV on many occasions. But it was obvious that Clint had no clue and since Clint can’t completely give up on his ideas ever it seems Jesse just gave up there and got frustrated with the direction of things.
And while I like your way of playing the game, there’s some truth in the previous comments. You say in the board room you don’t do the backhanded stuff like Rivers and then the next edit shows you in the private camera session saying mean things too so you kinda dropped of any high horse you were trying to ride on there.
Nevertheless no one’s perfect. If I had some advice for further TV/presentation appearances to give, I’d try to work on the fake-grins/smiles of yours. They look scary! When you’re “natural” it just looks cute. Better not to try to forcedly grin at all imo than end up looking like Melissa. There’s professionals who can help with this without botox.
One thing I have to add.
Definitely the best season of US Apprentice and actually of all the TV shows going (including Lost, 24, Survivor, Amazing Race), the strongest season of what’s currently on air!
Still the UK Apprentice has been much better in the big picture. More interesting tasks and firings that make sense.
I can’t really believe some are going up in arms about what I heard was a “BEEPjob”. Compare that to all stuff you heard from the Rivers in most serious tone that didn’t sound like acting at all. Difference is the context and tone of voice clearly made Annies comment more of a humorous thing where as there hasn’t been single funny thing coming out of the Rivers mouth during the show. I’m not saying the Rivers haven’t been entertaining in the big picture. I’m saying their verbal stuff has been complete crap, no imagination at all.
Board Room vs. Private Camera Session
There is a time and a place for everything. Annie chose not to expose her hand. There is nothing underhanded or duplicitous about it.
It’s called a bit of tact, class and self-control. If Annie had allowed herself to be drawn in by Joan in the Board Room, then she would be shown as having as little class and tact as Joan.
Annie has been honest about her dislike for Joan. When asked a direct question about it, she gave an honest answer. That doesn’t mean she needs to go on public tirades
The Private Camera Inerview is like a video diary, this is the forum where Annie chose to speak out. But to do so in the Board Room the way Joan has is tactless, unprofessional & disrespectful.
Joan has never attempted to discuss things or confront Annie the way a normal rational person would have handled things. Annie on the other hand attempted earlier on to talk to the Rivers and was shut down. There is nothing more she can do. She extended the olive branch and had her hand bit off.
JOAN RIVERS WON,OR SHOULD I SAY THE BEST WOMAN WON,YIPPY!!!
SO PROUD OF TRUE HONEST HARD WORK AND A CLASSY WOMAN.
ANNIE YOU WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING. THEIF AND A LIAR,CHEATER MAYBE THATS IT.
HEY ANNIE GO PLAY SOME MORE OF YOUR STUPID FRIENDS FOR SOME MORE OF THEIR BLOOD SUCKING MONEY, THEY MUST REALLY BE JUST AS DUMB AS YOU ARE FOR GIVING IT TO YOU.HA HA
IM GLAD YOU LOST ANNIE, WHAT A BIG JOKE YOU ARE.
WINNER IS JOAN ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK!
HA HA
Wow, I can’t believe you think one party is at fault here. You are all at fault, all acting like children. Annie you are by far, not in the free and clear for acting childish. You lied to peoples faces, boxed out Melissa when she actually was acting like a team player and not a child, and patted yourself on the back more times than I can remember! Good lord, there is a THICK line between pride and arrogance and your big head obviously prevented you from being able to see it. Joan shouldn’t have exploded and said all those rude things because it made her seem IGNORTANT, but between ignorance and arrogance, I would rather feel sorry for someone who doesn’t realize they sound dumb than feeling annoyed and disgusted by someone who tries to knock others down and build themselves up on their remains. It’s sad really.
(I raised the MOST money!!) Yes we know, that is NOT the only requirement of the game, Annie. Leaders know how to listen, feel, and compromise, not JUST take charge and tell people what to do.
Joan, calm yourself down and think before you talk. Melissa, I know that’s your mom, but she started the battle so she can finish it alone. Don’t act like a spoiled little brat.